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Subject: Re: Morning Glories
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From: Bruce_Duncan@sacbbx.com (Bruce Duncan)
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Date: Mon, 25 Jul 94 22:06:26 PST
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In <30d447$2br@news.u.washington.edu>, 
popllama@u.washington.edu (Alec Muzzy) writes:

> Believe it or not, this is an honest question (with no illegal intent) !!!

      Hmmm.....

> Ok, my question is about "Morning Glories".  I'm curious as to if all species
> of Impoea contain LSD, or is it just certain species?  How many seeds are 
> required, and how long they can be stored.  What would be the best time to
> pick the seeds?  How long does a trip last.

      Several species in the Bindweed or Morning-Glory family contain LSA,
      NOT LSD.  About 1/10th as potent, and there are other alkaloids in
      the plants which make for a less pleasant trip.  Not to mention
      that seed companies may coat the seeds with an emetic.  Best known
      of these species is the common Morning-Glory, Ipomoea
      tricolor (formerly I. violacea), not to be confused with
      I. purpurea, which is considerably hardier but has smaller
      flowers.  The Morning-Glory varieties which are I. tricolor are
      Heavenly Blues, Pearly Gates, Flying Saucers, Blue Stars (almost
      extinct -- I may have saved them from extinction),
      Wedding Bells and Summer Skies (both of which are extinct, as
      far as I know).  There are some other species -- I. hederacea,
      the Ivy-Leaved Morning-Glory; a tree morning-glory;
      Convolvulus tricolor, a bush morning-glory; Rivea Corymbosa, the
      Ololiuqui the Aztecs used in old Mexico; and the famed
      Elephant Creeper from India, better known here as "Hawaiian
      Baby Wood Rose."

      The high lasts for several hours (somewhat longer than mushrooms,
      for example), but can be accompanied by nausea, leg cramps, and
      other fun effects.  How many?  Usually 100-500 seeds for MGs,
      4 to 8 seeds for HBWRs.  The latter are obviously stronger, but
      have worse side-effects -- sort of flu-like.  Some people swear
      by water or chemical extraction of the active principle, which
      is unfortunately sensitive to heat and light.

      Seeds lose strength within a few months after picking, even when
      refrigerated.  When to pick?  In the fall, when the seed capsules
      dry but before they shatter & disperse the seeds.

      Personally I'd say these plants are better appreciated for their
      flowers... legality?  Like many other plants which contain chemicals
      which are illegal to consume, they are in a "grey area."  Legal to
      possess, but illegal to consume.

> The reason I'm asking (if your even interested) is for a clemency public affair
> show on my college radio station.  While I'm not interested in using them, I
> just want to show how ludicrus it is that certain plants are illegal to 
> possess, though they can be found growing on the corner of every street.
> 
> Also if anyone knows the legality of seeds that have LSD in them, I'd like to
> know myself!
> 
> popllama@stein.u.washington.edu
>