From eskimo!mvb.saic.com!news.cerf.net!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!eunet.no!nuug!EU.net!uunet!news.delphi.com!usenet Sun Jun 5 14:59:33 1994 Path: eskimo!mvb.saic.com!news.cerf.net!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!eunet.no!nuug!EU.net!uunet!news.delphi.com!usenet From: David Wilkey Newsgroups: alt.drugs Subject: Re: Ch2Cl2 Date: Tue, 31 May 94 01:06:48 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <022302Z16051994@anon.penet.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1d.delphi.com X-To: Mandala JUst ordered some Desmanthus seed from a place called Horus Botanical - seed packets were cheap ($2-$3), but I misplaced the catalog, so i cant give you the address, or tell you how good/bad their service is, since I just sent. There's another catalog I DO have that lists both seeds & living plants - they sell a small pkt of seeds, a LARGE pkt of seeds (enough to cover 1 ACRE!) for $25, and a living plant for $13. If you have any info regarding the amount of raw plant material required per dose, I'd love to hear from you - I can [C (whoops) suitable solvent, but that's not my forte, so someone else on this group would probably be a faster resource. (an ACRE- Jesus!!!) -good luck Dave -good luck Dave ---end former article--- and HARPETH1@ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (Data Storm) comments... I assume you are referring to desmanthus illinoensis. I'll retype the species description printed in ..Of The Jungle's catalog: DESMANTHUS ILLINOENSIS Leguminosae. Native North American perennial shrub, exellent erosion control plant, nitrogen fixing, drought hardy, restoration species for disturbed wild habitats. Disease and pest resistant. Recent labratory analyses have determined the roots contain tiny amounts of unusual indole alkaloids which inhibit growth of tomato and radish seedlings. There is a great potential for the development of a natural pre-emergent herbicide based on this root extract. The same study noted, incidentally, that although the seedling- inhibiting indoles occur in extremely trace quantities, the roots also contain a high percentage of the same alkaloid found in P. viridis leaves, an alkaloid of the desired herbicidal properties. The plant has a remarkably wide habitat diversity in nature, growing wild in northern areas with heavy winter snows as well as in the deep South. We know many people in virtually every area will be able (and eager) to cultivate this wonderful plant for its marvelous biochemical gifts. SEED PACKET $3; 7 GRAMS $10; OUNCE $25 * I hope this helps you out. I am interested in Banisteriopsis caapi (Yage) myself. Does anyone have experince with this particular species of vine? I am trying to decide whether I should purchase the actual plant or just vine cuttings. The cuttings are $35 (4 1/2 to 5 feet of 1/4" to 3/4" diameters). Assuming I buy the cuttings, how many ayahuasca preparations could be made from this amount of vine? Another option I may opt to take is actually purchasing the plant (50$) and growing the vine on a trelis. Has anyone here ever attempted cultivating the Yage vine? I would be VERY appreciative of ANY replies! Email or post. Thanx, DS